What happened ?

I was a fan of Stephen Fry when I was growing up. He appeared in TV-series like Blackadder, Jeeves and Wooster, as well as in smaller roles in TV and filmproductions. He was a part of the reason I like British comedy. He may have had these attitudes from the beginning, but he didn’t talk much about them then.

What happened to you, Stephen Fry?

What strikes me when I hear some of the high profile atheists (Stephen Fry, Christopher Hitchens, Stephen Dawking) is how angry they are. They come across as aggressive, militant, ferocious etc. This doesn’t happen without a reason, a pretty good reason. I am not going to say that this and that person has been a victim of something specific, but that is a possibility. Maybe some has had an overreligious father that was a tyrrant, or groped by a priest in childhood, or seen a parent or partner die slowly and painfully, or been a victim of physical or emotional abuse ? Many people go through a lof of pain and grief during life. That is hard to deal with, but tragically there are evil people among us that make life a living hell. I wish it wasn’t so, but I know it’s not coming from God.

That could easily get you to ask the question: Why God?

This is from a recent interview Stephen Fry gave to an Irish TV channel:

This is a video I used in another post, The dilemma of a scientist. Looking back on that post today, I thought I gave a pretty good answer. I haven’t studied the Bible in years, but intend to read more in the future. I am especially going to ponder the problems of evil and suffering. I invite others to comment on these questions and what I think is a trap these atheists walk into. This is common among Norwegian atheists too. The most public ones are very angry and they all seem to think that if men are evil, God has to be too.

The beginning of this video is quite interesting. Since the state church was abolished in Norway a couple of years ago, and we supposedly got a separation of state and religion, we have a socalled people’s church. The government still finances it, and is not supposed to interfer, but many have the popular idea that the ethics of the people, what most people think is right or wrong, should be the dogmatic theology of the people’s church. What people think is morally good changes all the time. This is a mess!

Incidentally, we have a good deal of experience with a pure atheist society. It’s called communism and it’s most famous leaders are Stalin and Mao Zedong..

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3 thoughts on “What happened ?

  1. “Incidentally, we have a good deal of experience with a pure atheist society. It’s called communism and it’s most famous leaders are Stalin and Mao Zedong.”
    Atheist societies? yes. Ruled by men who were megalomaniacs who demanded to be worshipped like gods, which was the essential element of their violence and failure.

  2. they all seem to think that if men are evil, God has to be too.

    There does seem to be a lot of anger there. And it appears that many of these people are very intelligent, by human standards. I wonder whether a part of their frustration is that they cannot logically make sense of scripture, and so have concluded that religion is nonsensical gibberish and, ultimately harmful to those who adhere to a profession of faith.

    Evil does indeed exist in this world. It is a consequence of Adam’s negligence in forfeiting his dominion to Satan. Christ bought back all of creation at the cross, but has not yet returned to complete the restoration. So, we still see the effects of sin in this life.

    I cringe a bit when I hear non-believers declare that, if they should discover that God really does exist, they would confront Him with a list of grievances. It is very bold to defy one’s creator with the mind and breath that He has graciously gifted. That God would allow this to continue in order for an individual to have every possible opportunity to repent of unbelief…this speaks of mercy and patience rather than maliciousness of character.

    Incidentally, we have a good deal of experience with a pure atheist society. It’s called communism and it’s most famous leaders are Stalin and Mao Zedong..

    Atheistic humanism appears to be the alternative religion that was offered to the humans in Genesis 3. The temptation was to “become as God”…the implication being that, if we have enough of the right kind of knowledge, we can achieve a state of autonomy. Communism is godless humanity’s attempt to build a counterfeit “heaven” on earth.

    It is interesting to note the widespread acceptance of atheist philosophy. I may be wrong, but this seems to be a relatively new historical development.

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